{QTtext}{timescale:100}{font:Verdana}{size:20}{backColor:0,0,0}| {textColor:65280,65280,65280}{width:320}{justify:center}| {plain} [00:00:03.516] ( Music ) [00:00:37.816] >> I'm Gene. [00:00:38.826] >> And I'm Dave. [00:00:39.896] >> And we're The Gene and| Dave Show, at SXSW 2015. [00:00:45.236] >> Wow what a great, great South| By we had this year, huh Dave? [00:00:48.806] >> Yeah it was awesome. [00:00:49.746] In this episode we're going| to focus only on the things [00:00:52.866] that we did at SXSW 2015. [00:00:55.566] I'm amazed, every year it| just gets crazier and crazier. [00:00:59.506] You know, every year| I think man, [00:01:02.126] Sixth Street can't| get any crazier, [00:01:03.836] but this year (laughter)| man it was. [00:01:05.746] It was nuts. [00:01:06.666] >> There's always someone [00:01:07.876] out there doing something| there Dave. [00:01:09.336] >> And it was so much| fun, but I think I'm, [00:01:10.886] I've already booked my| vacation for next year at work. [00:01:13.626] I'm just taking the| whole week to be at SXSW. [00:01:15.576] >> Well we were, yeah, we were| there for a week this year, [00:01:19.236] and we want to thank the South [00:01:21.886] By organizers for| bringing us out. [00:01:24.796] But you had a, you had| a great experience, w-- [00:01:29.116] what was the first event or| presentation that you saw? [00:01:34.246] >> Man, you know I always think [00:01:35.936] that in shows we should| always save the best for last. [00:01:39.636] But we've got to| start off with this, [00:01:41.286] because this was just| the most amazing thing. [00:01:45.166] I met the gentleman| by the name of Hugh. [00:01:48.476] And Hugh is actually| the bionic man. [00:01:52.816] >> Really? [00:01:53.246] >> The bionic man,| yeah I got to meet him. [00:01:55.406] And it was so awesome because| even when I was a kid, Gene, my, [00:02:00.566] every year for my birthday you| know when I was like five, six, [00:02:03.666] seven years old, you know I, [00:02:05.926] I used a wheelchair| even back then. [00:02:07.656] In fact, here's a picture of me, [00:02:10.046] you know couldn't get the| microphone out of my hands. [00:02:13.086] This was me probably when I| was, I was about six or seven, [00:02:19.436] and on the television at that| time, was the best show ever, [00:02:24.806] which was The Six| Million Dollar Man [00:02:27.516] ( The Six Million| Dollar Man Intro ) [00:02:32.476] >> Watching, watching the intro [00:02:35.316] to that show brings| back awesome memories. [00:02:39.136] Because I knew, if I could just| get bionics, that you know, [00:02:43.586] I could be rebuilt again. [00:02:44.796] I could be faster and stronger. [00:02:46.446] >> You could do anything. [00:02:47.666] >> I could do anything,| yeah exactly. [00:02:49.106] I could do the things that| even my friends, you know, [00:02:51.186] that could walk and run,| they couldn't even do, [00:02:52.676] I could always out do them. [00:02:54.546] And at SXSW this year,| I got to meet Hugh, [00:02:57.646] which is a real bionic man. [00:03:00.486] He lost both of his legs| while he was climbing. [00:03:03.496] You know, doing the| crazy stuff that you do. [00:03:06.636] >> Oh he got, he got frostbite. [00:03:08.466] >> Yeah he got frostbite| while he was climbing. [00:03:10.746] And he noticed that with his| prosthetics that he could use, [00:03:16.286] he could actually make| himself better and stronger. [00:03:19.076] And started creating| more climbing prosthetics [00:03:22.156] that would allow him to push| his feet into smaller rocks. [00:03:26.346] >> So he could customize| his legs, so to speak. [00:03:28.116] >> Absolutely, customize them| so he could climb better, [00:03:31.546] faster than anybody else,| and, from that sparked the use [00:03:35.676] of bionics and just| a fantastic story. [00:03:39.806] Got to see him. [00:03:40.896] Unfortunately though,| our footage didn't turn [00:03:43.066] out so good though, we| had some sound problems. [00:03:45.336] But I was able to find this,| this TED Talk from a year ago, [00:03:49.756] that it pretty much| he says the same thing [00:03:53.666] in this TED Talk| that he said at SXSW. [00:03:55.976] And it's just a phenomenal| story, so let's take a look [00:03:59.196] at some clips from the TED Talk. [00:04:01.866] It's not the entire TED clock,| talk, I just took out some [00:04:05.496] of the things that were| most memorable to me, [00:04:08.086] and let's check him out. [00:04:09.556] This is Hugh. [00:04:11.286] >> Bionics explores| the interplay [00:04:15.616] between biology and design. [00:04:17.426] As you can see, my| legs are bionic. [00:04:21.166] Today I will tell human| stories of bionic integration. [00:04:26.816] How electro-mechanics| attach to the body [00:04:29.336] and implanted inside the body| are beginning to bridge the gap [00:04:34.636] between disability and ability, [00:04:37.386] between human limitation| and human potential. [00:04:42.866] Bionics has defined| my physicality. [00:04:46.456] In 1982 both of my legs were| amputated due to tissue damage [00:04:50.246] from frostbite incurred during| a mountain climbing accident. [00:04:54.156] That time, I didn't| view my body as broken. [00:04:58.636] I reasoned that a human| being can never be broken. [00:05:03.866] Technology is broken. [00:05:06.606] Technology is inadequate. [00:05:09.876] The simple but powerful| idea was a call to arms, [00:05:14.466] to advance technology, for the| elimination of my own disability [00:05:18.486] and ultimately to the| disability of others. [00:05:22.676] I began by developing| specialized limbs [00:05:25.786] that allowed me to return| to the vertical world [00:05:28.206] of rock and ice climbing. [00:05:29.726] I quickly realized that| the artificial part [00:05:32.036] of my body is malleable, able to| take on any form, any function, [00:05:38.256] a blank slate from which| to create, perhaps, [00:05:42.106] structures that could extend| beyond biological capability. [00:05:47.666] I made my height adjustable, I| could be as short as five feet [00:05:50.396] or as talk as I'd like. [00:05:51.396] (laughter) So when I was feeling| badly about myself, insecure, [00:05:58.196] I would jack my height up. [00:05:59.186] (laughter) But when I was| feeling confident and suave, [00:06:03.536] I would knock my| height down a notch just [00:06:05.396] to give the competition| a chance. [00:06:07.956] [00:06:11.596] (laughter) Narrow| wedge feet allow me [00:06:13.296] to climb steep rock fissures [00:06:15.116] where the human foot| cannot penetrate. [00:06:17.526] And spiked feet enabled me| to climb vertical ice walls [00:06:21.736] without ever experiencing| muscle leg fatigue. [00:06:25.726] Through technological| innovation, [00:06:27.916] I returned to my sport| stronger and better. [00:06:30.766] Technology had eliminated| my disability [00:06:32.796] and allowed me a new| climbing prowess. [00:06:35.766] As a young man, I imagined a| future world, where technology [00:06:38.306] so advanced could rid| the world of disability. [00:06:41.106] A world in which neural implants| would allow the visually [00:06:43.676] impaired to see. [00:06:45.246] A world in which the| paralyzed could walk, [00:06:47.906] via body exoskeletons. [00:06:49.876] At the MIT media lab, [00:06:51.876] we've established the| Center for Extreme Bionics. [00:06:54.366] The mission of the Center is to| put forth fundamental science [00:06:58.936] and technological capability [00:07:00.756] that will allow the| biomechatronic [00:07:03.256] and regenerative repair of| humans across a broad range [00:07:06.566] of brain and body disabilities. [00:07:10.616] Today I'm going to tell you how| my legs function, how they work. [00:07:14.406] As, as a kind of case in point,| for this Center, and I made sure [00:07:18.356] to shave my legs last night, [00:07:19.656] because I knew I'd be| showing them off, body. [00:07:22.716] When I walk here,| it's no voltage, [00:07:25.226] my interface is soft| and compliant. [00:07:27.516] The buttons push, voltage| is applied and it stiffens, [00:07:30.306] offering me a greater| maneuverability [00:07:31.916] of the bionic limb. [00:07:33.806] We're also building| exoskeletons. [00:07:36.196] This exoskeleton comes stiff and| soft, in just the right areas [00:07:40.016] of the running cycle to| protect the biological joints [00:07:43.276] from high impact| and degradation. [00:07:45.836] In the future we'll all| be wearing exoskeletons [00:07:48.546] in such common activities| such as running. [00:07:51.016] At my MIT lab, we've| studied how humans [00:07:54.366] with normal physiology| stand, walk, and run, [00:07:57.346] what are the muscles doing, [00:07:58.776] and how are they controlled| by the spinal cord. [00:08:01.736] This basic science| motivates what we build. [00:08:04.076] We're building bionic| ankles, knees and hips. [00:08:06.556] We're building body| parts from the ground up. [00:08:09.906] The bionic limbs that I'm| wearing are called BiOMs. [00:08:13.276] They've been fitted to| nearly a thousand patients, [00:08:17.056] 400 of which have been| US wounded soldiers. [00:08:20.096] How does it work? [00:08:21.076] At heel strike under| computer control, [00:08:23.236] the system controls stiffness| to attenuate the shock [00:08:27.176] of the limb hitting the ground. [00:08:28.346] Then, at midstance the bionic| limb outputs high torques [00:08:31.516] and powers to lift the person| into the walking stride, [00:08:34.836] comparable to how muscles| work in the calf region. [00:08:39.156] This bionic propulsion is| very important clinically [00:08:41.856] to patients. [00:08:42.496] In the channels of| motor channels, [00:08:44.166] we can sense how this| person wishes to move. [00:08:47.066] That can be sent out| wirelessly to the bionic limb [00:08:50.166] and then sensors on the| bionic limb can be converted [00:08:53.696] to stimulations in adjacent| channels, sensory channels. [00:08:57.446] So, when this is fully| developed and for human use, [00:09:01.926] persons like myself will not| only have synthetic limbs [00:09:05.036] that will move like| flesh and bone, [00:09:07.676] but actually feel| like flesh and bone. [00:09:10.386] >> (inaudible) Wow,| that was phenomenal. [00:09:14.196] >> Amazing, amazing,| and that TED Talk, [00:09:16.706] the end of the TED Talk I left| off, so please if you thought [00:09:20.806] that was a great show log [00:09:22.326] on to our web site| TheGeneAndDaveShow.com and look [00:09:26.446] up the sho-- show synopsis| and we'll give you the link [00:09:29.446] to the entire TED Talk. [00:09:31.136] Because you've got to see| the ending, it's just, [00:09:33.746] it'll bring a tear to your eye. [00:09:35.926] You definitely have| got to see it, [00:09:37.436] and I've got to get| some bionics. [00:09:39.406] >> Those bionics are better| than, yeah, I mean it seems [00:09:44.176] like he could climb better| do things better now, [00:09:46.976] than he could before. [00:09:48.046] >> Yeah and, and I| talked to him about it. [00:09:50.176] I said you know, "What do| you have for people in my, [00:09:53.176] my case, with Cerebral Palsy?" [00:09:54.576] He lost his limbs so he could| replace them with the bionics. [00:09:58.036] And he told me about| the exoskeletons [00:10:00.806] that you saw in the| TED video event. [00:10:03.296] That was, he said everybody| someday might have those [00:10:06.356] to make them run faster, so. [00:10:08.706] But I can't wait to| get my hands on them. [00:10:11.036] I think that it would| be just so awesome. [00:10:13.486] >> Well you know, I was| injured in 72, and when I was [00:10:18.026] in the hospital back then, they| would put electrodes in my arm [00:10:22.536] and they'd, they would| try to control them, [00:10:26.796] using different wires and| switches to move my fingers. [00:10:30.736] And, I mean, it was just| purely research back then. [00:10:34.326] But that was 40-- 43 years ago. [00:10:38.066] So they've come a| long way since then. [00:10:40.536] >> They have come a long way. [00:10:42.856] >> But-- [00:10:43.306] >> And you've come| a long way too. [00:10:45.716] >> You know The Gene and| Dave Show got a big surprise [00:10:48.316] here Dave. [00:10:49.086] Now that we've got a big| budget, we can afford The Gene [00:10:52.096] and Dave Show Dancers. [00:10:53.416] Let's take a look. [00:10:54.166] >> Check out these dancers. [00:10:56.516] ( Music ) [00:11:03.216] >> So those are The Gene| and Dave Show Dancers? [00:11:04.926] >> Tho-- those are The| Gene and Dave Show Dancers. [00:11:06.226] >> That's all we could afford? [00:11:08.006] >> We spared no expense, [00:11:09.226] and when I say no| expense, I mean no expense. [00:11:12.136] >> Alright, alright. [00:11:13.536] >> So now Dave, while you| were watching the bionic man, [00:11:17.956] I went to a presentation| on GroHomes. [00:11:21.796] Gro stands for, let me| make sure I got this right. [00:11:26.466] >> Let me guess they're growing| marijuana in their homes? [00:11:29.536] >> No. [00:11:30.316] >> Oh. [00:11:30.586] >> It's green, responsible,| open. [00:11:33.816] So I, that, that's| what gro stands for. [00:11:36.976] >> Okay. [00:11:37.356] >> But the presentation| was really aimed for, [00:11:41.946] or or about housing| particularly for disabled vets. [00:11:46.986] So veterans come home from| the war, they're disabled, [00:11:51.106] they need accessible housing [00:11:53.346] and perhaps their| home isn't accessible. [00:11:57.976] So they've got these units| they can add on to the home, [00:12:02.266] or could be stand alone| on the person's property. [00:12:06.676] >> Oh wow. [00:12:07.336] >> And you know, so something| that's easy to put up. [00:12:10.576] It is accessible, here, here's| a short clip of what it, [00:12:13.536] it's supposed to look like. [00:12:15.726] >> GroHomes was customized to| meet the emergency housing needs [00:12:19.376] of the Katrina victims. [00:12:21.246] The adaptable GroHomes, shown| here, is fully customizable [00:12:25.326] to meet the needs of| the Wounded Warriors. [00:12:27.646] It is designed to be| freestanding or easily attached [00:12:31.026] to an existing structure. [00:12:32.686] It's sequential design| allows it to grow [00:12:34.966] as its owner homeowner's| needs change. [00:12:38.086] There-- [00:12:38.796] >> What's interesting how| they're building this, [00:12:40.966] and they talked about| crowd funding, too. [00:12:44.576] So, although it's, they really| talked about disabled vets, [00:12:49.226] it could be anyone| with a disability, [00:12:51.086] you need accessible housing. [00:12:52.836] If you've got a piece| of property already, [00:12:55.506] go on one of these sites to do| crowd funding, raise some money. [00:13:02.486] You can buy these, get| involved with the Gro Funding, [00:13:07.786] and you'll have some| accessible housing. [00:13:12.966] >> That sounds really| great because, [00:13:14.346] just because a person become| disabled and something [00:13:17.316] as unfortunate as going to war| and coming back home, you know, [00:13:20.866] you don't always want to| move out of your home, [00:13:22.936] just because some| situation has happened. [00:13:24.976] And you know, if you can| retrofit your own home, [00:13:28.296] or at least stay on your own| property by adding on something, [00:13:32.346] man what a, what a great| situation to be in. [00:13:35.176] >> Yeah, but I know when I| became disabled, there was, [00:13:38.586] there was only two rooms| I could be in their home. [00:13:41.736] >> Uh huh. [00:13:42.166] >> Because it wasn't| built accessible, [00:13:45.536] but yeah it would have been| nice to add on like that. [00:13:49.516] But there wa-- there was so| much there, they billed it [00:13:52.386] as ADA homes but we all know the| ADA doesn't regulate housing. [00:13:57.886] So, it, it was interesting| how they did that. [00:14:02.526] D-- Dave we're on the| air, what are you reading? [00:14:04.616] >> Oh yeah, oh okay, sorry| Gene, I was just kind of-- [00:14:07.496] >> What are you so engrossed in? [00:14:08.866] >> Well, not you know, not| only did we get to participate [00:14:12.436] in some of the interactive| stuff, but you know, [00:14:15.386] my Saturday my phone was, was| ringing and you were looking [00:14:19.126] for me, when we were filming,| and I actually got into a film. [00:14:24.536] >> A film? [00:14:25.126] Which film? [00:14:25.816] >> That was in SXSW. [00:14:26.656] And not only got| in to see a film, [00:14:29.556] but I was in a film (cash| register chime) it was a film [00:14:32.576] that I got to be a part| of a couple years ago. [00:14:35.276] It was called Manglehorn| (cash register chime). [00:14:37.866] >> So you were in| the film, they, [00:14:39.866] they filmed you,| you're a movie star. [00:14:41.256] >> Yes yes, Dave from The Gene| and Dave Show was, was in a film [00:14:44.756] at SXSW that got| to premier it was. [00:14:47.686] >> Wow [00:14:48.006] >> it's United States| premier, in fact. [00:14:49.986] And I got to see it, and I got| to work alongside of Al Pacino, [00:14:55.816] which was fantastic, [00:14:57.816] just watching him| work was, was amazing. [00:15:02.316] And Holly Hunter,| I got to meet her, [00:15:05.286] which was another| fantastic surprised. [00:15:07.806] She actually came up and| introduced herself to me, while [00:15:10.636] >> Wow. [00:15:10.766] >> we were working on the set. [00:15:11.826] You know she came up and| said, "Hi, I'm Holly." [00:15:14.336] I was like, no joke. [00:15:16.236] (laughter) [00:15:16.346] >> Oh my goodness. [00:15:17.306] >> And, so it was an| awesome experience. [00:15:19.586] I'm in the film for| about two seconds. [00:15:23.146] So if you ever do get to| see the film, don't blink. [00:15:26.506] I'm in the scene where they| go to the pancake breakfast. [00:15:31.676] So, look for Dave from| The Gene and Dave Show [00:15:35.016] on the movie Manglehorn. [00:15:37.356] >> I'll do that. [00:15:37.966] That sounds great. [00:15:39.216] Now, I remember that| Saturday, whi-- [00:15:42.036] while you had disappeared| for a while, I was trying [00:15:45.106] to raise more money for| The Gene and Dave Show, [00:15:47.396] to pay for our dancers, [00:15:48.566] by picking up some change| doing some valet parking. [00:15:52.586] I figured 35 bucks a pop| valet parking is a pretty good [00:15:55.916] price point. [00:15:56.716] >> So how many cars did| you get to park Gene? [00:15:58.646] >> I, I-- [00:15:58.876] >> How many were| accessible that you could get [00:16:00.696] in and actually drive? [00:16:02.376] >> (laughter) Okay that's,| there weren't that many. [00:16:05.156] >> Oh Okay. [00:16:05.806] >> But, but you know, you've| got to try some new things. [00:16:09.506] >> So at least we had enough| to afford these dancers. [00:16:13.116] ( Music ) [00:16:15.216] >> You want to, you want to talk| about the vendors at South By? [00:16:18.826] >> Yeah, I was amazed [00:16:20.886] at the interactive| floor again this year. [00:16:22.826] There's just always so much to| see, and I'm just always afraid [00:16:25.506] that I'm going to| miss something, [00:16:27.006] because it's just, it's huge. [00:16:28.896] And there's millions of| people there wandering around. [00:16:31.996] But the thing that amazed me| most this year, are the devices [00:16:36.356] that come out, that| people create. [00:16:38.606] That, that they're not| necessarily meant for people [00:16:41.986] with disabilities, but when| you see them, you just think, [00:16:45.796] "Wow this is something| that, you know, [00:16:48.156] how have I lived my| life without this. [00:16:50.196] I could really use this device,| and I know that other people [00:16:53.386] with mobility impairments, or| you know, maybe even visual [00:16:58.826] or audio impairments could| really use to their advantage." [00:17:02.806] And they weren't, they weren't| created with that in mind, [00:17:06.566] but they're definitely useful| for people with disabilities. [00:17:10.326] >> I saw something called The| Ring, and it was just a ring. [00:17:15.046] This gentleman from Japan| wore, it had a button on it, [00:17:19.926] and just by moving| his hand around, [00:17:21.696] and then pressing a button,| he was able to turn lights on [00:17:25.416] and off, raise the| volume on the stereo. [00:17:28.766] >> Wow. [00:17:29.376] >> Interface with his computer. [00:17:31.156] I'm thinking there's so many| people with disabilities [00:17:34.246] that could use something| like that. [00:17:36.556] Here's a little clip| of it in action. [00:17:38.946] >> Okay, it's The Ring,| it's a valuable device [00:17:41.486] that you can control with by| just shutting your first finger. [00:17:45.206] For example you do the, just| like this, so that you can turn [00:17:49.386] on the TV, and do the| gesture, turn off the light. [00:17:52.936] So you can control| like home appliances, [00:17:55.776] or you can send a Twitter,| or you can play a game, yes. [00:17:59.386] >> So. [00:18:00.746] >> Do a gesture and| a V. So we, we, [00:18:02.856] we think that just one gesture,| so you can do like a triangle, [00:18:07.866] or maybe a square,| or like circle, [00:18:10.846] or a (inaudible) you can,| you can make any customize, [00:18:13.216] you can customize your gestures. [00:18:14.386] >> Is there an accelerometer| in there? [00:18:17.396] >> Yes accelerometer and a gyro. [00:18:19.656] (inaudible) [00:18:26.526] I can take a picture, like that. [00:18:28.726] [00:18:29.896] And, and also, so| now I play the music. [00:18:38.706] (background music) I ch--| change the volume, like that. [00:18:43.926] [00:18:51.566] Light on, light off. [00:18:56.006] >> Cool, that is The Ring. [00:18:57.386] >> Yeah, now you| found something too. [00:19:00.486] >> I did, I bumped into some| people with some new headphones, [00:19:03.616] that, they sounded amazing. [00:19:07.246] And the best part about| it was how they worked. [00:19:10.336] You know, there weren't any,| all the other headphones [00:19:12.806] that I've ever used, they've| got little tiny buttons. [00:19:15.576] And you know, if you've| got them on your ear, [00:19:17.036] you're always trying to| get your hand up there, [00:19:19.086] and find the right button. [00:19:20.216] And you know, you try| to turn the volume down, [00:19:22.956] you wind up skipping| to the next song. [00:19:25.986] Or you know, you're| trying to turn the volume [00:19:27.276] up because you really like| the song that's playing, [00:19:29.656] and you hit the wrong| button and you fast forward [00:19:31.746] to the, the next song. [00:19:33.326] And oh you just, one| catastrophe after the other [00:19:36.146] if you can't use| your hands very well. [00:19:38.056] But I found these,| these headphones [00:19:39.906] that were just amazing,| that all you have [00:19:41.926] to do is just easily| swipe it, you know back [00:19:45.486] to go to the next song. [00:19:48.306] Or you can swipe up| to turn the volume up. [00:19:51.536] Just some awesome headphones| that you can use with your phone [00:19:56.496] or without your phone. [00:19:57.796] They just stream [00:20:00.046] music into them without| your phone, [00:20:02.946] and it saves it all over night. [00:20:04.756] You've got it right there,| you build your own channels. [00:20:07.386] You like the song, it| will remember that, so. [00:20:10.176] It's actually on Kickstarter,| right now they're not available, [00:20:13.226] but I tell you what,| I've ordered mine. [00:20:15.256] And here's why. [00:20:17.626] >> Hey Gene, we got| to check this out. [00:20:19.656] I'm here over at the, the| booth for the AIVVY headphones [00:20:24.536] which is coming out| soon on Kickstarter. [00:20:26.316] Is that correct? [00:20:26.896] >> Exactly. [00:20:27.396] Next week. [00:20:27.976] >> Yeah, and I, I, I'm here| with Isaac, and I actually got [00:20:29.506] to try these headphones| out, Gene. [00:20:31.566] And they're, they're| very remarkable, [00:20:33.296] the sound quality is great. [00:20:35.446] The, the thing I like| most about it is, [00:20:37.976] it's very accessible to use. [00:20:40.196] Even though my, my fingers| with my CP, you know my dis-- [00:20:44.416] dexterity is not very good. [00:20:46.386] So, when I usually wear| headphones, it's hard for me [00:20:48.706] to find the Play button,| the Rewind button, [00:20:50.586] the Fast Forward button, the| Volume button, all of that, [00:20:54.256] but with these headphones| it's just simple tap if you [00:20:56.776] like he song, if you don't like| the song, you just swipe it, [00:21:00.086] and there a little| dial on the side [00:21:02.326] that you can actually| change channel [00:21:04.086] that was still very| easy for me to use. [00:21:06.476] So these, these are very| accessible headphones. [00:21:10.166] And, even if you, if you're| visually impaired right? [00:21:13.486] You've had some people| that liked them? [00:21:15.206] >> Exactly. [00:21:15.866] We've got many people's| attention this morning, [00:21:18.106] because people realize| that, okay, [00:21:20.536] listening to music| can be easier. [00:21:22.726] Because we, maybe are customized [00:21:25.426] to using a smart phone| using a headphone, [00:21:28.336] connecting them together,| selecting music, etcetera, [00:21:31.746] then starting to| listen to music. [00:21:33.526] With our AIVVY headphone, [00:21:35.426] you can just pick it| on, the music is on. [00:21:37.846] Because it, we believe| that listening [00:21:40.316] to music can be easier. [00:21:41.656] Then we introduce the| gestures, but it's not only [00:21:44.436] for simple acquiring| the, the interaction, [00:21:46.976] but also learning| your, you know, [00:21:49.036] listening experience| all the time. [00:21:51.046] This, this information, we're| collecting, we'll send back [00:21:54.446] to the algorithm, back in, [00:21:56.736] so we can recommend you| more sounds you like. [00:21:59.366] >> Right. [00:21:59.826] >> So it's a lifelong thing| we're doing, you know, [00:22:03.166] for music lovers, music fans. [00:22:05.256] >> So it's like building your| own radio without commercials. [00:22:08.286] >> It's very much interactive| radio station in high quality. [00:22:11.946] >> And you get to hear, you| get to hear different things, [00:22:14.276] rather than just, just the-- [00:22:15.366] >> Absolutely. [00:22:15.946] >> Same old, same old stuff. [00:22:17.066] >> The global sounds,| because we're connecting [00:22:19.576] to some global licensing| platforms. [00:22:22.476] So the account, it| will be feeding to you [00:22:25.576] from different sources,| including those Indie sources, [00:22:29.746] so we try to support| the end users to, [00:22:32.886] to be able to accessing| those global music. [00:22:35.896] The same time the global| musicians get the chance [00:22:38.756] to reach the ears directly. [00:22:40.276] >> Fantastic. [00:22:41.366] >> It is. [00:22:42.106] >> Alright well look for| them, the AIVVY headphones . [00:22:44.356] >> You know, I've got a| question now, let's suppose me [00:22:47.886] and my girlfriend| are living together, [00:22:49.716] but we only have one headphone. [00:22:51.266] Is it, can it be programmable-- [00:22:53.196] >> It is sharable, because| we had a jack there, [00:22:56.716] so you can connect to your| traditional headphone, [00:22:59.246] enjoying the same sound| together, two people. [00:23:02.476] Yeah, this is sharing invention. [00:23:04.356] We didn't forget people| (inaudible) there, because the, [00:23:07.556] we buy a lot of headphones| for home. [00:23:09.746] >> Right. [00:23:10.156] >> So with this headphone you| can connect to speaker as well, [00:23:13.366] to enjoy the music in the| whole room with your friends. [00:23:15.726] So is, we're doing| something sharable, [00:23:18.496] this is our philosophy as well. [00:23:20.346] >> Great, great. [00:23:21.556] Do you have an actual| product to show us? [00:23:24.046] >> Oh yeah. [00:23:24.356] We have a dock room| here, in this trade show. [00:23:27.876] So you guys can step in,| I'm not sure if this bar is, [00:23:32.956] no good enough to step in, but| we can try to take it down. [00:23:36.366] >> It won't fit, can we| bring them out, just show it? [00:23:38.476] >> Exactly. [00:23:39.046] Awe, we don't really want| other people to (inaudible) [00:23:42.566] >> Oh cool yeah,| I'm jamming, SXSW. [00:23:52.866] Now we've got some head| banger music going, yeah. [00:23:56.646] Yeah. (groan) [00:23:57.446] >> A change. [00:23:58.966] Change the channel| for you (laughter) [00:24:03.876] >> Awe, now we're listening| to some Eric Clapton Live. [00:24:09.716] Oh yes, I like that| song, he's right. [00:24:13.706] >> So even, you're| doing something else, [00:24:15.666] you can use your finger. [00:24:18.426] [00:24:20.696] >> Simple swipe, oh yeah,| I get to hear it again. [00:24:23.476] (laughter) I like that| song so much I'm going [00:24:25.006] to hear it over and over. [00:24:27.006] >> Exactly. [00:24:28.086] Now that's what we| try to change, [00:24:30.056] our music experience| you know can be enhanced [00:24:33.896] with new technologies not| relying on those traditional, [00:24:38.336] very heavy, you know platform. [00:24:41.226] Because with this platforms,| you know, yes it's intelligent, [00:24:46.226] it's smart, it also| (inaudible) you problems. [00:24:49.536] We try to go back to the old| school technology caching [00:24:52.596] sounds, synching| your preferences, [00:24:55.606] learning your gestures, all| based on this single device. [00:24:59.326] You don't need other| devices anymore. [00:25:01.466] So it's smart, it's learning. [00:25:04.916] >> I love them, check them out. [00:25:06.186] Look for them on Kickstarter,| and maybe in a store near you. [00:25:09.726] The AIVVY Headphones. [00:25:11.556] Dave reporting at SXSW. [00:25:13.666] >> I'm Sorry. [00:25:16.346] >> Well it's like you're| doing a commercial for them. [00:25:19.126] Like you really love that stuff. [00:25:20.866] >> (laughter) Yeah, I think we| filmed that two or three times. [00:25:23.026] Just because they, they| were so amazed by it. [00:25:25.526] They, they really, they,| they liked the pitch, [00:25:29.326] and like I said, you know,| it wasn't the intention [00:25:32.416] of the makers to make a| device that was accessible. [00:25:35.826] But, just through their| ingenuity and trying [00:25:38.686] to make life easier for| everyone else, it helped me [00:25:43.866] with the physical| limitation to be able [00:25:45.506] to control my headphones better. [00:25:47.306] So I've ordered my pair, I| can't wait for them to come in. [00:25:50.086] >> Well you know,| you're not the only one [00:25:51.576] that found something| music re-- music related. [00:25:54.996] I found this one program where| you, you look into a webcam, [00:25:59.726] and you can see the instruments| in the background, in back you, [00:26:04.756] and by moving your arms,| or you, even your head, [00:26:08.396] you could hit certain| instruments [00:26:10.506] and actually play a song,| or at least make sounds. [00:26:15.186] And here, here's| what it looks like. [00:26:18.976] [00:26:20.006] >> (background music) Okay,| even so you can by hand or arm [00:26:25.296] or head, every part of the body. [00:26:28.766] (questions inaudible)| Yeah, so, yes, sir here. [00:26:38.576] >> You can, there I am,| moving around, hitting, [00:26:48.216] hitting the various instruments,| but the theme I'm getting [00:26:54.096] from this year's SXSW 2015| is interfacing with computers [00:27:01.226] without actually touching| them, just using motion. [00:27:04.996] So, again, something that people [00:27:07.246] with disabilities| could really use. [00:27:09.936] >> Yeah. [00:27:10.236] >> So. [00:27:10.426] >> Some really awesome| stuff this year. [00:27:12.786] >> So I yeah, I was| happy to see that, and-- [00:27:15.886] hey let's see those Gene| and Dave Show Dancers again. [00:27:18.776] >> Oh we can't have| too many dance scenes. [00:27:21.516] ( Music ) [00:27:25.056] >> Dave there was this| one company I found at, [00:27:29.396] called EXIII, E-X-I-I-I| from Japan. [00:27:34.286] And th-- this, it,| it's, nowadays, its, [00:27:39.696] it's cool to have| a prosthetic limb. [00:27:42.536] I mean, this guy had a pros--| prosthetic arm and they, [00:27:49.566] and they're, this company sells| components for prosthetic limbs. [00:27:58.206] You, if you've got a| 3D printer at home, [00:28:00.556] you can custom make woo--| a parts for your 3D limb, [00:28:05.186] for your limb, however you want. [00:28:07.986] You can make it really| artistic if you want. [00:28:10.316] >> Wow. [00:28:10.726] >> For less than $300. [00:28:12.906] And it was amazing, I, I| went up to the gentlemen [00:28:18.126] with a prosthetic| limb and held my hand [00:28:20.116] out and he shook my hand. [00:28:21.816] And all of a sudden all of| these photographers jumped [00:28:25.236] in (laughter), they| had to see this. [00:28:27.966] And, so I, I interviewed him| and of course being Gene, [00:28:33.816] from The Gene and| Dave Show, I had to-- [00:28:35.146] >> Absolutely [00:28:35.836] >> have him hold the mic. [00:28:37.036] >> right. [00:28:37.666] >> It's the kind of showmanship| we have on this show. [00:28:40.696] So tell us the name| of your company, [00:28:42.916] and what you're doing here? [00:28:44.256] >> Can I answer? [00:28:44.606] >> Yes, yes. [00:28:45.636] >> So, our company is called| EXIII, we are from Japan, [00:28:50.006] and we are building 3D| printed prosthetic hands. [00:28:53.906] >> So this was printed| on a 3D printer? [00:28:56.486] >> It's 3D printed| except for motors [00:28:59.136] and other electronic parts. [00:29:01.226] >> And how much would something| like this cost, this prosthetic? [00:29:05.026] >> For this prototype it costs| 300 US dollars for materials. [00:29:10.646] >> That, that's very| cheap, very affordable. [00:29:13.236] >> Yeah, so. [00:29:13.666] >> That's so low cost. [00:29:16.196] >> Thank you. [00:29:17.306] >> Wow, my microphone| costs more than that. [00:29:20.186] >> Oh really, well| that's a good one, so. [00:29:23.906] >> So this, it's such a, a you,| you're in the mainstream now [00:29:29.206] and this says a lot about| prosthetics and a lot about, [00:29:33.786] and about, and just| how far we've come. [00:29:39.486] So it's surprising| to see you at SXSW. [00:29:42.596] >> Thank you very much. [00:29:44.866] >> And it's just good| to meet our friend here. [00:29:48.246] >> Yeah. [00:29:49.036] >> Alright arigato. [00:29:50.516] >> Thank you. [00:29:51.846] >> Arigato gozaimas. [00:29:53.326] >> Yeah, just amazing. [00:29:55.146] Prosthetics has come| so far and to have this [00:29:58.166] on the main floor is, I mean, [00:30:00.736] you, you, year's ago you| wouldn't have seen something [00:30:05.376] like that in the mainstream. [00:30:06.296] >> Yeah, not out| in the mainstream. [00:30:07.746] But yeah, it's a good thing| he didn't have a bionic arm. [00:30:10.656] He might have squeezed the| microphone with really tight. [00:30:14.206] (laughter) [00:30:14.916] >> Yeah. But you know Dave| there's a lot of people coming [00:30:18.396] up with new things, and| the one thing that South [00:30:22.626] By does every year is they| have the Dewey Awards. [00:30:26.306] >> Absolutely, and| you were there. [00:30:28.236] >> I was there. [00:30:29.476] Now, they presented| Dewey Awards to people [00:30:33.146] who have used technology to| provide community service. [00:30:37.906] Then they, they award,| ten awards per year. [00:30:42.856] And this year they awarded one [00:30:45.456] to Libby Powell from| London, England. [00:30:50.866] Libby developed something| called On Our Radar, [00:30:56.246] where people anywhere| in the world, [00:30:59.646] people who are disenfranchised| including people [00:31:02.556] with disabilities, can send a| Tweets, or emails, or photos, [00:31:09.486] or video of a certain situation. [00:31:13.546] And so they've got people| in all kind of remote areas [00:31:16.216] in the world sending| information on how they're, [00:31:20.396] they're getting along or the| struggles they're having. [00:31:22.986] >> Wow. [00:31:23.986] >> Yeah so it's really,| really something [00:31:25.636] to check out, On Our Radar. [00:31:27.966] Now I did interview a| woman named Arizona Smith [00:31:31.826] who was accepting the award| on behalf of Libby Powell. [00:31:38.446] And, let's listen in and| see what she had to say. [00:31:43.146] >> Arizona, you're from the| UK tell what you're doing [00:31:46.006] over there, and why| you're over here. [00:31:48.756] >> So I'm here in the place| of Libby Powell who's the CO [00:31:51.306] at Radar, who's just| won the Dewey Award. [00:31:54.586] And what Radar does is,| the kind of crux of it is [00:31:58.116] about building confidence| through freedom of speech. [00:32:00.746] So they go to places where| the communities are kind [00:32:04.306] of marginalized, and they don't| often get to kind of story tell [00:32:07.396] in the media, or they kind,| they have problems with lack [00:32:12.486] of internet access| and things like that. [00:32:15.176] And we give them the tools, be| that like little mobile phones [00:32:19.136] or just computer training, [00:32:20.906] or a mentor to help them| get their stories out there. [00:32:25.096] And it's kind of about not| making really like crafted, [00:32:28.476] polished pieces of| journalism, but just making, [00:32:31.596] so anyone can text their| opinion in it, even. [00:32:34.696] So it helps at long things| and little things, and yeah. [00:32:38.596] >> And, what countries| would this cover? [00:32:40.636] >> We've done projects in| Sierra Leone, Kenya, India, UK. [00:32:44.476] I'm actually from the, [00:32:46.876] one of the first| training group in the UK. [00:32:49.126] So I was trained by Radar, [00:32:50.536] and then I've gone| on to work with them. [00:32:54.146] >> Now if people want more| information about this [00:32:56.996] and believe me they, they do,| where would they look it up? [00:33:00.246] Where would they| find it on the web. [00:33:02.376] >> If you search On Our Radar,| you can find a Twitter feed, [00:33:05.226] or you can find our| website, or our Tumbler. [00:33:08.486] >> Alright, great, is it just| text or is it also video? [00:33:12.276] >> Yeah, anything sometimes| people use, or leave messages, [00:33:15.576] so voice messages and then we| can type that up, or just upload [00:33:18.486] that as audio, any| way that people want [00:33:20.806] to communicate is good. [00:33:22.906] >> So Dave, maybe we could even| send some of our video there, [00:33:26.616] or so, and see if they'll| put it up on their server. [00:33:29.936] >> Yeah, yeah definitely,| of course. [00:33:31.756] >> Arizona, such a| pleasure meeting you. [00:33:33.676] >> You too. [00:33:34.136] >> Thank you for the interview. [00:33:35.906] And a big thanks to Kathy Keller [00:33:37.706] from Knowbility who's| helping us to film this today. [00:33:42.016] >> Yep. Here's the| Knowbility bag. [00:33:44.816] >> It, I think that came, [00:33:46.956] that came from Knowbility| I don't remember if we got [00:33:49.886] that at the Dewey Awards or not. [00:33:51.846] But, we also interviewed Sharron [00:33:55.526] from Mobility, or| actually you did. [00:33:57.946] So, let's take a look. [00:33:59.516] >> Right, I've always got my| eye out for accessibility. [00:34:03.196] And I was really shocked to| find out that in the future, [00:34:07.816] the internet is not accessible. [00:34:10.416] >> What? [00:34:11.006] >> Here we go, check it out. [00:34:13.286] >> So one of the exciting things [00:34:14.446] about SXSW is not only| seeing current technologies, [00:34:19.496] but being able to| see what happens [00:34:21.466] in the future, future| technologies. [00:34:23.946] I'm here at the Internet of| Tomorrow booth, and I'm going [00:34:27.516] to go inside and check it| out, and see what the Internet [00:34:31.226] of Tomorrow actually looks like. [00:34:34.156] (background noises) [00:34:39.506] >> Oh, there's stairs. [00:34:44.126] Oh oh. It looks bad, for| the Internet of Tomorrow. [00:34:47.846] Does that mean that the Internet| of Tomorrow is not accessible? [00:34:53.386] Stay tuned, we'll find out. [00:34:55.926] [00:34:57.036] >> So right around the| corner was Knowbility, [00:34:58.976] right after I figured| out that the future [00:35:01.386] of the internet wasn't| accessible. [00:35:03.416] I was not too happy, but| I was really happy to see [00:35:06.716] that right outside the door| steps, literally the steps [00:35:10.376] to the booth of the future [00:35:11.786] of the internet,| there was Knowbility. [00:35:14.106] So I went to ask Sharron,| "Hey, what's up Sharron, [00:35:17.586] what about the accessibility| of the future internet?" [00:35:21.876] And here's what she| had to tell me. [00:35:24.876] >> So Sharron I see the| Internet of Tomorrow over there. [00:35:28.216] I was just over there at that| booth and I wasn't able to get [00:35:32.386] in because there's some stairs| to the Internet of Tomorrow. [00:35:35.276] What are we going| to do about that? [00:35:38.596] >> Well Dave you know that it,| it is funny about the Internet [00:35:42.346] of Tomorrow, and| many of the people [00:35:44.636] in technology just don't| think about the needs [00:35:46.856] of people with disabilities. [00:35:48.436] And a lot of times, it's not you| know deliberate, they just, it, [00:35:52.056] it doesn't occur to them. [00:35:53.586] And so our job at Knowbility| and what you all do so well too, [00:35:58.136] is to just talk about,| "Hey you know we're here, [00:36:01.796] we need access too", and help| them understand what it means, [00:36:05.566] and how to, how to provide| that kind of access. [00:36:08.926] For example, you don't come| to a tech show with a place [00:36:12.446] where you can only| get in using stairs. [00:36:14.586] And wouldn't you think| by now, with the ADA [00:36:17.026] and everything, they| would know that. [00:36:19.576] >> You would think. [00:36:20.826] >> And so Knowbility's job. [00:36:22.546] Since the internet is being| used in the way that it is, [00:36:25.866] is to make sure that as they're| building these new applications, [00:36:32.126] and this, all this| technology innovation, [00:36:35.156] and thinking about these things. [00:36:37.466] That the needs of people [00:36:38.306] with disabilities are considered| first, and built in along [00:36:43.426] with every other| consideration they would make. [00:36:45.756] >> Fantastic, Knowbility| can tell you how to do that. [00:36:50.716] >> And Knowbility can absolutely| tell you how to do that. [00:36:53.256] >> Alright, well-- [00:36:54.446] >> How do we contact Knowbility? [00:36:56.066] >> We are Knowbility.org,| K-N-O-W-B-I-L-I-T-Y.org [00:37:02.326] and we're all about disability,| community and technology. [00:37:05.646] >> Fantastic, thank you Sharron. [00:37:07.356] >> Always a pleasure Sharron. [00:37:08.506] Thank you so much for being| here, and doing what you do. [00:37:12.916] >> Well you know Dave,| we were at Southwest-- [00:37:14.846] SXSW for a couple of days, [00:37:17.736] and actually I went back| there and I found a ramp. [00:37:23.176] >> They fixed it. [00:37:23.956] >> (laughter) They fix,| they fixed that's it, yeah, [00:37:26.336] they made it accessible. [00:37:28.026] >> Oh man, I'm so| glad to know that now [00:37:30.346] that they have the knowledge, [00:37:31.886] I'm sure that because they| heard me talking to Sharron. [00:37:34.356] >> That's good. [00:37:34.916] >> Now they have the knowledge, [00:37:36.486] and they built a ramp| right there at SXSW, [00:37:39.486] thanks to The Gene| and Dave Show. [00:37:41.966] >> You're welcome everybody. [00:37:43.196] >> It got done, so| now the future [00:37:45.066] of the internet is accessible,| everybody can rest tonight. [00:37:49.736] >> You know that| Knowbility does so much work [00:37:52.236] and helping people build| accessible websites. [00:37:55.596] They helped us with ours which| won a accessibility award. [00:37:58.716] So we, we're glad to have| Sharron here in town. [00:38:05.106] And Desiree as well,| so we interviewed-- [00:38:07.646] well you interviewed Sharron and [00:38:09.056] >> Mm hmm, and then we| talked to Desiree as well. [00:38:10.976] And I tell you what, they are| definitely accessibility heroes. [00:38:16.106] >> And Desiree had one| of her proteges with her. [00:38:19.326] >> She did. [00:38:19.906] >> Nicki (phonetic),| and let's meet Nicki. [00:38:23.386] >> We're here at SXSW| at the Knowbility booth. [00:38:27.906] You know Dave, we've| seen so many booths here, [00:38:30.146] and they're giving out| so many promo items. [00:38:32.846] Here at the Knowbility| booth, they're giving [00:38:34.446] out babies (laughter) Yeah,| I just got this baby here. [00:38:39.196] I think I'll name her Nicki. [00:38:41.736] Hi Nicki [00:38:42.436] >> Can you say hi Nicki? [00:38:44.376] >> She's pretty excited. [00:38:45.816] I can wait to strap| her on my back though. [00:38:48.176] >> Ah Gene, I, I, I hate to| tell you this, but I don't think [00:38:51.716] that Desiree's going| to give away Nicki. [00:38:54.356] >> Oh Desiree was here first? [00:38:56.266] (laughter) [00:38:56.333] >> Yeah, yep. [00:38:56.796] >> She claimed dibs on Nicki [00:38:59.756] >> Yeah, she she's the| answer did the chicken [00:39:01.936] or the egg come first. [00:39:03.306] >> Well she had a| baby last year. [00:39:06.096] >> I know, and here we| are again (laughter). [00:39:08.416] Repeat performance, it's| kind of like deja vu, right? [00:39:11.276] >> She had a baby 11 years ago. [00:39:13.186] What's up with that? [00:39:14.426] >> Come back next| year and we'l l see, [00:39:16.076] maybe there'll be another one. [00:39:18.656] >> No, no, no, no. [00:39:19.126] No, we're done (laughter) [00:39:19.476] >> Alright, well Desiree, who| are you and what do you do? [00:39:24.036] >> Well lately what I do is| chase kids around the house, [00:39:27.466] but I have been, I'm here| actually representing [00:39:31.016] Knowbility, of course. [00:39:31.996] And showing people how their| websites work using screen [00:39:36.546] readers, and Braille, and| all kinds of fun stuff. [00:39:41.146] Recently we've been| doing a lot of testing [00:39:43.456] for various web developers| and educational platforms, [00:39:47.406] and trying to kind of| make everything more [00:39:49.776] and more accessible. [00:39:51.146] And we're starting to do more| with iPhone apps, and iPad apps, [00:39:56.766] Mac, that kind of thing, too so. [00:39:58.866] Opening up to not| just JAWS and Windows, [00:40:00.976] but other, other things as well. [00:40:03.436] >> So Desiree how does someone| that's blind read the internet? [00:40:08.426] >> Well, as long as| it's coded correctly, [00:40:11.086] I'm able to go using my screen| reader, that's called JAWS [00:40:14.046] for Windows for a voice| over (cash register chime) [00:40:15.576] on the MAC, or MVDA,| or various choices. [00:40:19.976] >> Public endorsement| ka-ching (cash register chime) [00:40:22.596] >> Yep, yep, yep, somebody| give me some great technology [00:40:26.536] (laughter) yeah so, and I, I| can read by link by heading [00:40:30.656] by form field, but the| key is that the site has [00:40:34.486] to be coded correctly. [00:40:35.336] >> When you say read,| what do you mean? [00:40:37.786] >> I can listen to it. [00:40:39.536] >> Okay so the computer| will read out loud-- [00:40:41.186] >> Yes. [00:40:41.676] >> What you've really| got on the screen. [00:40:43.996] >> Yes, or I can also| use the Braille display [00:40:48.396] and read it that way. [00:40:50.596] >> Now how does the| Braille, how do you get [00:40:54.286] that feedback from the computer? [00:40:59.226] >> Well the Braille display| runs through the screen reader, [00:41:01.716] so JAWS has the driver| for the Braille display. [00:41:04.886] So everything that you hear| with JAWS, you actually can feel [00:41:07.976] on the Braille display. [00:41:08.596] >> That sounds similar,| something similar [00:41:12.776] to refreshable Braille. [00:41:14.456] >> Yes, it's exactly| the same thing, yes. [00:41:18.386] >> It's always fun| to talk with Desiree. [00:41:20.696] >> It is, what a great,| the whole entire family. [00:41:22.976] What a great family. [00:41:24.696] >> It, and you know, the thing| that amazes me about Desiree, [00:41:28.366] is she knows how to do so much| more with a computer than I do. [00:41:33.456] And, and be-- being blind I| think she would have trouble [00:41:36.286] with the apps, using the| apps and certain software, [00:41:40.396] but with the voice controls| and such she can do everything. [00:41:44.446] She even edit, edits| her own music. [00:41:46.866] >> Yeah. [00:41:47.256] >> She records the| music, she edits. [00:41:50.416] It's just amazing. [00:41:51.306] >> All of her Apple devices| definitely changed her life [00:41:54.446] for the better. [00:41:56.396] >> Now you were getting| interviewed I took a break [00:42:00.276] and was outside on the sidewalk,| getting hassled by the police [00:42:03.856] for having a motorized vehicle| outside there on the sidewalk. [00:42:08.546] But actually, actually the| police did a wonderful job [00:42:13.646] and they were (laughter)| they obliged us [00:42:17.596] for being in this photo. [00:42:18.666] So hats off to the| Austin police department. [00:42:22.096] >> Thank you for being| Gene and Dave Show fans. [00:42:26.336] >> Now Dave, there's something [00:42:29.596] that I think you| should get involved in, [00:42:32.416] and that's something that we| saw at SXSW, called Vocal ID. [00:42:39.216] >> Yes. Yes. [00:42:40.716] Giving people their own voice, [00:42:42.556] that don't necessarily| have a voice. [00:42:44.796] And this was phenomenal,| and it's you know it's [00:42:47.806] such a great concept to be| able to mix someone's voice [00:42:51.076] that has trouble| speaking with someone [00:42:53.506] with a great speaking voice to,| to come up with their own voice, [00:42:58.316] so that if they use sometime [00:43:00.726] of augmentative communication| device, which is that full term [00:43:04.676] for it, you know, it| doesn't necessarily have [00:43:08.296] to sound like a robot anymore. [00:43:11.196] >> Yeah. [00:43:11.476] >> Which is great because nobody| wants to just go around sounding [00:43:14.266] like a robot, and| having it talk for them. [00:43:17.666] >> Exactly, yeah. [00:43:19.236] So it will blend the donor's| voice, with the person [00:43:24.226] that needs a voice, to| make this hybrid voice it, [00:43:28.586] it's got to mean so much| for that person, to, to, to, [00:43:32.946] have their own voice now,| that someone could understand. [00:43:36.126] So, if you want to donate| your voice, go to Vocal ID, [00:43:42.066] and check out that webpage [00:43:45.756] and see how you can| donate your voice. [00:43:47.866] You've got a great voice Dave,| I'm, I'm sure a lot of people-- [00:43:50.156] >> I'd be glad to do it. [00:43:51.436] >> Now Dave you and I both| used virtual reality headsets. [00:43:55.756] You, you wear a headset,| it covers your eyes [00:43:59.516] and you see the,| a virtual world. [00:44:03.216] I mean it looks 3D whether| you're going up steps or going [00:44:07.176] through a window,| everything looks 3D. [00:44:10.816] But this one company FOVE| F-O-V-E has a headset it, [00:44:16.126] it tracks the movement,| movements of your eye. [00:44:19.686] And here's, here's the| big plus I see in that, [00:44:23.376] when I used virtual reality| headsets before, I, I, [00:44:27.756] I could see things but I| couldn't activate anything. [00:44:30.306] I couldn't press any buttons. [00:44:31.596] >> Mm hmm. [00:44:32.016] >> Couldn't reach the keyboard,| could do anything with it, [00:44:34.826] but this program it| tracks your eyes. [00:44:38.366] First thing it, that they| put the headset on you [00:44:42.706] and then they do this| exercise with you're supposed [00:44:45.836] to follow this blinking| dot with your eye. [00:44:49.056] >> Look to the left,| look to the right, with, [00:44:50.876] just with your eye right? [00:44:51.826] >> Yeah yeah, and| once they track it, [00:44:54.636] they turn this game| on, and I'm blowing [00:44:58.776] up these little spaceships,| just with my eyes. [00:45:01.446] Just following it around on the| screen, blowing them up and it's [00:45:04.896] like so amazing, I could do| all this stuff just by looking. [00:45:11.036] Again all hands free, so. [00:45:14.366] >> Very cool. [00:45:15.126] >> Yeah yeah. [00:45:16.596] It, it, it is really amazing| the stuff they're coming [00:45:18.856] out with, again. [00:45:21.976] Hey, how about some| more of those Gene [00:45:23.586] and Dave Show Dancers? [00:45:24.486] >> Let's see them. [00:45:26.516] ( Music ) [00:45:36.046] >> You know. [00:45:36.196] >> Boy those Gene and Dave Show| Dancers that never gets old. [00:45:38.586] >> (laughter) It never does. [00:45:40.716] >> Well maybe a little. [00:45:43.336] >> (laughter) We also saw| something called RollerMouse, [00:45:46.506] by Contour Design. [00:45:48.386] It's, it's just a, in-- instead| of a trackball, you use a mole-- [00:45:53.646] or, or, or a mouse, regular| mouse, there's just a roller tab [00:45:57.536] on the computer, and they| say it's supposed to reduce [00:46:01.916] or even eliminate| carpal tunnel injuries [00:46:07.066] by interfacing the| computer this way. [00:46:09.906] And, so for a lot of people with| disabilities, this might be a, [00:46:13.996] a real good option from| the traditional mouse. [00:46:18.566] >> Yeah, I mean the input is| just a very minimal movement. [00:46:22.006] And if you've got very minimal| movement, you might be able [00:46:26.406] to use this RollerMouse. [00:46:29.386] >> Another presentation new| went to was the, Modern Swiss-- [00:46:33.246] I mean Apps for Independence. [00:46:36.966] I was expecting a lot from this| panel, the way it was billed, [00:46:40.356] the way it was promoted. [00:46:42.926] But, they said that| the panel will examine [00:46:45.016] and demonstrate how apps and| mobile devices can be used [00:46:48.616] to support independence by| focusing on individual's skills, [00:46:52.856] abilities, and interests. [00:46:54.766] So again they're,| you know we, we, [00:46:57.166] we're in a mainstream setting,| but they're, they're looking [00:46:59.836] at disability type focus. [00:47:02.206] But one of the first apps| they show is how to-- [00:47:05.526] someone using an app| to make a bibliography. [00:47:09.636] And, I'm thinking, you| really don't want to lead [00:47:12.286] with something like that. [00:47:13.276] If you talk about independence,| use something that you're going [00:47:15.986] to do on a daily basis. [00:47:17.476] >> Right. [00:47:18.396] >> But they, they did have| some things of interest there. [00:47:22.766] So it never hurts to| explore all the different [00:47:27.756] presentations there. [00:47:31.526] We also saw someone from NASA,| a woman named Grier Wilt. [00:47:37.436] And Grier was the head| of the EVA Operations. [00:47:43.296] EVA stands for Extra| Vehicular Activities, [00:47:47.316] so when they go outside the| spaceship and do something. [00:47:50.836] So I don't know how she| got mixed up with that, [00:47:54.786] and then doing presentations. [00:47:56.916] But, the one thing we found out,| is that the Johnson Space Center [00:48:02.186] in Houston, they are hiring| people with disabilities. [00:48:06.786] >> Awesome. [00:48:07.516] >> So, you've got a disability,| live in the Austin area, [00:48:10.716] look up Grier Wilt, and,| who's in EVA Operations, [00:48:17.596] and she'll hook you up. [00:48:19.086] >> Yeah so Johnson Space| Center has the inclusion [00:48:22.766] and innovation counsel,| and we have about six [00:48:25.606] to eight employee| resource groups. [00:48:28.096] And we just started one I think| it was last month and it's [00:48:31.516] for disabled people at NASA, so. [00:48:34.666] >> So people will work| at the Johnson Center. [00:48:37.516] >> At the Johnson Space Center| to kind have a, a community [00:48:40.816] and also just a resource for,| and kind of identity and voice [00:48:45.346] of the, at the Center. [00:48:47.296] >> And I'm always onto NASA [00:48:48.536] about getting us| back to the moon. [00:48:50.316] >> Yeah (laughter) [00:48:50.566] >> I want to get on the| moon, because I'll be able [00:48:52.516] to walk up there on zero G. [00:48:54.686] >> I, I, I think we| have a picture of us, [00:48:57.476] or even a clip of| us on the moon. [00:48:58.606] >> That's right, on the moon. [00:48:59.906] >> This goes out to Dennis| Borel of the Coalition [00:49:02.796] of Texans with Disabilities. [00:49:05.246] Dennis a few years ago you| sent people to Mount Everest, [00:49:08.936] well this time how about| sending them to the moon. [00:49:12.746] Here's one wheelie for Dennis [00:49:16.906] >> And one giant donut for CTD. [00:49:19.976] [00:49:23.616] We're ready to go Dennis,| send us to the moon. [00:49:27.986] >> We really go a long| way for the, for our show. [00:49:30.716] >> We do, all the| way to the moon. [00:49:33.796] >> And here's another| thing that we found. [00:49:36.996] Something called plen, P-L-E-N. [00:49:40.136] Yeah, where you could| control robots, and and, [00:49:44.336] but with their body, body mo-- [00:49:46.176] with your body motion| and facial movements. [00:49:50.876] And you can customize these| robots with 3D printing. [00:49:57.196] So if you've got a| 3D printer at home, [00:50:04.336] make all the kind of outrageous [00:50:21.436] [00:51:00.016] robots that you want to| make and you control them [00:51:00.096] with the, your own body motion. [00:51:00.163] And what they said| is, we do not believe [00:51:00.230] that robots should| replace people, [00:51:00.297] but they should complement| our abilities. [00:51:00.364] So I'm thinking folks| like me and you [00:51:00.431] with disabilities could| just use different motions [00:51:00.498] to get these robots| to do work for us. [00:51:00.565] >> We would like to help the| more open robot for everybody. [00:51:00.632] And so we are learning| the Kickstarter campaign [00:51:00.699] as a plan two. [00:51:00.766] So plan two will be| open for everyone. [00:51:00.833] So we will provide the| some sensors collection, [00:51:00.900] like using these| connectors sensor [00:51:01.566] to understand the human| motion, and the other thing [00:51:02.886] that we use is the| pyroelectric sensors, to like, [00:51:04.206] understand the gesture. [00:51:04.776] And also we use the| mind wave sensors, [00:51:05.826] to understand the| people's concentration. [00:51:06.906] And concentrate, if the| peoples concentrate enough, [00:51:08.226] the robot can your intention. [00:51:09.546] >> So you were demonstrating| here, a little while ago-- [00:51:12.476] >> Yep. [00:51:13.236] >> Someone just using their| motion, just using their hands-- [00:51:16.896] >> Uh huh. [00:51:17.116] >> And arms, can actually| activate the robot-- [00:51:20.466] >> Yeah. [00:51:20.766] >> And get the robot| to move around. [00:51:22.696] >> Yeah. [00:51:22.946] >> And now you've also developed| a sensor, a mind sensor-- [00:51:27.886] >> Yes. [00:51:28.876] >> That can wirelessly| tell the robot what to do. [00:51:33.266] >> Yes yes yes. [00:51:34.086] >> So this might have| applications for people [00:51:37.106] who are severely paralyzed,| perhaps just using their minds. [00:51:41.986] >> Yeah. [00:51:42.796] >> To control a robot [00:51:44.176] >> Uh huh. [00:51:44.386] >> To do something. [00:51:45.516] >> Yeah. [00:51:46.006] >> That is incredible. [00:51:47.126] >> That's also-- [00:51:48.186] >> Thank you. [00:51:48.816] >> Yeah thank you. [00:51:50.876] >> We should have| bought about ten of them [00:51:52.316] and they could have been with| The Gene and Dave Show Dancers. [00:51:54.546] (laughter) [00:51:56.346] >> Good one Dave. [00:51:57.156] >> Do we have another clip of| The Gene and Dave Show Dancers? [00:51:59.526] >> We sure do. [00:52:00.186] (laughter) [00:52:01.016] ( Music ) [00:52:12.016] >> And at another presentation| we saw that was really I, [00:52:20.156] I think, one of the most| important in terms of us folks [00:52:25.026] with disability, it was| called Makers Change the World [00:52:29.666] and Tools Change the Maker. [00:52:32.276] We talked with Paul Teich, who's| the CPO and Senior Analysts [00:52:38.796] at Moor Insights & Strategy. [00:52:42.406] And they have something| called Tech Shop. [00:52:44.916] What it is, is you pay| a monthly or annual fee, [00:52:48.676] you go into this Tech Shop and| they've got all the materials, [00:52:52.806] they've got all kinds of people,| with all kinds of background, [00:52:56.516] and you can go in there and say,| "Hey, I've got an idea for a, a, [00:53:02.086] a wheelchair that will| go up really steep hills, [00:53:04.296] or go over curbs| or whatever", and, [00:53:07.286] and they'll help| you get set up with, [00:53:10.066] with whatever you need to do. [00:53:11.226] Maybe you, you need to| help with the designing it, [00:53:14.986] they'll introduce you| folks that can do that. [00:53:18.506] Maybe you need help building| it, special materials, [00:53:21.646] they've got all that there. [00:53:23.406] They, they've got I| think the closest one [00:53:26.886] to Austin is in Roundrock. [00:53:29.896] But, so, if you've got an| idea for a special product, [00:53:35.206] you're someone with a| disability let's say, [00:53:37.426] I mean the Tech Shop| is meant for anybody, [00:53:39.756] but it could be especially| helpful to those [00:53:42.136] of us with disabilities. [00:53:45.326] We talked with Paul,| here's a, here's a clip. [00:53:50.966] [00:53:52.176] >> Places like Tech Shop offer a| good environment where you go in [00:53:57.456] and work with people| already there. [00:53:58.686] They're dream consultants can| help you to realize your idea, [00:54:02.946] even if you, if you can't,| if you don't know how [00:54:06.046] to use the tools, if you| need help using the tools, [00:54:09.186] executing your idea. [00:54:10.586] There're also people who are| around just in the normal course [00:54:32.616] of the day who are| friendly and helpful. [00:54:44.326] It's a, it's kind of a| collaborative environment. [00:54:56.416] So it provides a good,| kind of unstructured, [00:55:04.136] but yet helpful place for people| to go who don't know what to do, [00:55:09.946] who perhaps can't operate| certain types of tools [00:55:16.686] to get the help they need. [00:55:18.286] >> So fantastic, so even| if these are products [00:55:30.126] that may not be virtually| valuable, [00:55:33.686] or but still thinking it's| a sensitive, select segment [00:55:39.166] of the community in terms| of with disabilities. [00:55:43.516] >> Sure. The whole| point of Tech Shop is, [00:55:46.296] that these emerging Makers| Spaces, is actually kind [00:55:48.836] of the opposite of these| commercial products. [00:55:52.166] Everybody has ideas that| they want to pursue. [00:55:56.436] So the, the ability| to realize your idea, [00:56:00.606] in many cases it is| dependent on access [00:56:03.156] to knowledge you don't have,| tools that you can't afford, [00:56:06.776] and so Tech Shop is| a great place to go. [00:56:09.096] We have access to millions| of dollars of tools, [00:56:12.796] and you have access| to people in the shop [00:56:15.526] and they are Dream Consultants [00:56:17.326] that can help you put| your idea together [00:56:18.976] and it doesn't matter how| far fetched, impractical, [00:56:20.696] or even useless, if it's| your idea and you want [00:56:21.986] to make it happen,| they're there to help. [00:56:22.946] >> Paul just sounds [00:56:23.396] like a really congenial young| man wanting to help out, [00:56:24.806] so if you've got an idea for a| product that you want to make. [00:56:26.456] >> Yeah, there's all kinds| of ideas that I always have. [00:56:27.716] So I'm definitely going to| keep his number in my rolodex, [00:56:29.306] and if I ever think about it,| and want to actually put pen [00:56:30.956] to paper, and build something,| I'm going to call Paul. [00:56:32.246] >> Good call Dave, good call. [00:56:32.846] >> Alright. 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